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I was recently studying Daniel and came across a great historical connotation of the armies of the north and the south who fight back in forth...
Here is the site I found explaining Daniel Chapter 11
A brief summary of the page here. Chapter 11 has two parts, the first part is Daniel 11:1-35 covers the time from Darius the Mede (chapter 6) until Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175-164 B.C.). The second part, Daniel 11:36 to 12:2 covers the last Gentile ruler (aka ANTICHRIST), who is in power at the return of Messiah.
But this is merely a glimpse of the overall end times scenario.
I also highly recommend a book called "The Islamic Antichrist" by Joel Richardson. That book filled in a lot of details and answered a lot of questions for me about who the last empire is (the empire of AntiChrist). Namely a reformulated Turkey with an Islamic Caliphate...the last caliphate or last Mahdi, (which by the way Iran's Ahmadinejhad seeks to create the circumstances for him to appear and bring about the Islamic version of the Last Days)
Islam's savior appears to be the antichrist of Christianity. Complete with beheading and persecution against Christians and Jews and anyone else who does not agree with Islam, the antichrist is the long awaited Islamic Messiah who will usher in the world rule of the last empire.
The common thread between empires or beasts in Revelation is that they all ruled over Jerusalem. The bible is Jerusalem centric. The empires that Revelation talks about we can see from history are:
Egyptian Assyrian Babylonian Persian Greek Roman and who took over the Roman empire?
From "The Islamic Antichrist" by Joel Richardson. "In AD 395, the Roman Empire was divided into two portions; the eastern and the western portions. The eastern portion became known as the Byzantine Empire. In AD 410 the western capital city of Rome fell to invading Germanic Tribes known as the Visigoths or Barbarians. The western/European half of the empire including it's capital had fallen, but the Roman Empire nevertheless continued. How so? It simply shifted it's capital and its throne from Rome to Constantinople-a thousand miles east. The western European portion of the Roman Empire fell but the Eastern Byzantine portion of the Roman Empire lived on for nearly another thousand years. with Constantinople as it's capital. The Roman Empire didn't actually fall until the eastern portion of the Empire finally fell in AD 1453 to the Turks. The Turkish Ottoman Empire succeeded the Roman Empire and ruled over the entire Middle East, including Jerusalem, for nearly five hundred years. The Turkish Empire existed right up until 1909.
Thus we see that the only empire that fulfills the patterns necessary to be considered the seventh empire is the Turkish/Ottoman Empire. This of course corresponds perfectly with Ezekiel's list of nations with such a heavy emphasis on Turkey.
The Turkish Empire was the seat of the Islamic caliphate. It was not until 1923 that the Islamic caliphate was officially abolished. Today the Islamic world awaits the restoration of that caliphate. The Bible teaches that someday soon the Turkish Empire willbe revived.
Revelation 17:8 The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the Book of Life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, then he was not, and yet came again.
At that time we may expect to see the Islamic caliphate restored. Eventually a man might rise to this position whom the Muslim world would refer to as the Mahdi, but whom people of understanding would identify as the man known biblically as the AntiChrist."
This makes a lot more sense than the conventional wisdom about a revived Roman empire. Which many bible scholars regard as the accepted interpretation.
Revelation 17:8-11 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.
9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, (at the time of this writing of the book by John the five are Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, and Greek) one is (Rome was still in power and is the sixth Empire to rule over Jerusalem), the other has not yet come (The Turkish Ottoman Empire); but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. (The Turkish Islamic Caliphate to come) He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
There you have it...that is what I believe. So the Islamic nations will come against Israel...but they will also declare a peace treaty for 7 years...and break it in the midst of the 7 years...and persecute the Jews and Christians...in absolute Greatest Tribulation.
More to come. Looks exciting for those who believe.
The Strong Watchman
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you are greatley deceived, Freemason, Iluminatis is just a side show, Satans way of leading many off the scent.
The Jews do not control the World, another propaganda lie to turn people to literally fight Christ when he returns. look at he nations in the bibile - today those nations are islamic. Bible prophecy is israel/Middle East centric not Europe, USA etc
May I suggest a book calle From Abraham to Armageddon. Scripture prooves it is not a western empire (no western empire encompassed Babylon (Iraq) and Medo-Persia (Iran)
Before i start replying i want to you to understand i'm not a reglion man, and i didn't read in bible that much but i will do my best to let ya know what i mean .
Jerusalem was built by "Canaan ppls" then it was ruled by many races and empires and since it has holy places for both (jews,christian s,muslims) there were alot of wars going on there and it didn't end yet.
And about saying that the extreme element of islam religion is to wipe might be true but ever asked yourself why?
beacuase jews who made isreal came to palastine raped,killed,de stroyed everything at palastine too many incoent pepoles were killed,tortued for nothing, just same as what white/europe peoples did to the Native Americans At North America and Austraila and history remember this very well.
Islam told us that all muslims are brothers so if someone in troubles we must help him out and fight the enemy, BUT in the same time if the enemy surrender or wanted peace then we MUST obey the call, we are not war fan ppls but we don't accept Injustice!
tell me what US and its allies gonna do if russia attacked some stats of the US for example?
aren't you guys going to fight back? then whats the difference between freedoom fighters at palastine fighting isreal army than freedoom fighter at any other place around the world! here i will list some of the masacres were made by the isreal army:
soundofegypt.com/.../...
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And about El-masieh * jesus *, i didnt get what you mean but once again i tell we as muslims respect,blieve in jesus, Dawod (David) same as we believe in Mohamed, and ofcourse we believe in their religion. we do belive there's is only 1 GOD who is AllAH, and we don't believe that El-Masieh was GOD either crossed, we believe he's still alife and will come back when Gog and Ma'gog come out
and here's the evidence about EL-masih :
answering-islam.org/.../...
ofcourse you gonna say, why should i read about my relgion from your books!?
my answer is,
1-) how many verisons of the bible all over the world? and how come each verison 've different insteructions than the other, how ya know the real from the fake?
but in the other hand There's only 1 Quaran all over the world its the same book anywhere and ALLAH said that he created this book and he's gonna protect it from harm that's why you dont find different copies of Qauran
2-) you can google movie called *miracles of Qauran* and * islam empire of faith* so you can gain better than knowloge than you get from media.
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about the jews part:
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i aggree with you that jews were the AlLAH chosen peoples in the past untill they started to leave their relgion, and dis-obey Mousa and there alot of events i can list it down for you, plus JEWS NEVER stick to their word they always backstab that's why everyone hated them, and before you say im racist or anything like that i can prove it to you aswell from many events that jews aren't the people of trust and correct me if im wrong were they giving EL-masieh hard time and told roman where he was staying !!!?
and yea The elite group of jews who work under the Freemason orginzation who are controling the world, They control Media,Economy,i ndustry,miltiar y.
theres Videos called * The Arrivals* check it and you will believe in what im saying.
Please feel free to contact me or add me AT
savatagonline_2 004
as this discusion require more talking :)
And in the end i wish you all luck and forgive my poor english.
ALLAH knows more and hope forgive me if i say something wrong.
Maher.
History as indicated above is unchangeable. The empires who ruled over Jerusalem are unchangeable. The last empire to rule over Jerusalem was the Turkish Ottoman Empire. It stands that this empire will indeed be the revived empire that comprises the final beast empire of Revelation.
While Islam preaches (as you say) acceptance of people of the book. The extreme elements of Islamic Religion desire to wipe Israel off the map as is noted in the Palestinian charter.
Islam denies the deity of Jesus Christ. If you are not for Jesus Christ...you are against Him. This sets the tone of Islam without doubt, against believers in the book and in Christ.
To the Jews were committed the oracles of God, and Christians are the grafted into the olive tree which is Israel. Even though Israel for a time may be blinded...it is for the salvation of the gentiles...if they respond to the call.
Islam does not tolerate Jesus Christ to be God...as it preaches only Allah is God.
Allah and Jesus Christ are certainly not the same God
As for Jews controlling the world...you are greatly mistaken. The insidious powers that control our world are much bigger than a Jewish country...
But God promised the land of Israel to the descendants of Abraham and the promise is through Isaac...not through Ishmael.
Whether you are descended from Isaac or Ishmael does not have an effect on whether you can receive salvation through Jesus Christ by faith...but it does determine by Jewish descent whether or not you are a recipient of the promises of God in a literal fashion.
God always saves a remnant of the people and He will again ...in the last days.
It is because the Jews are God's chosen people that the empires hate them, no other reason.
Believing that the Jews control the world is propaganda and you have been deceived if that is what you truly believe.
God bless you as you seek the truth.
The Strong Watchman
I think your wrong about what you said that Islam empire is the anti-Christ empire for the following reason :
1-Islam/Muslims believe in both Christian religion and El-Messiah maybe different points of view but we do believe and no Muslim can be mulish without believing and respect both Christians and Jewish religion.
2-in Islam Antichrist is ( el Messiah el dagal) person with one eye who gonna say he's Jesus and ruin everything and so on u can google it .
3-weren't Jews who lead roman to Jesus? and they don't believe or even respect Christian/Jesus or Islam? why do you think all the empires hated them ? for no reason? or reason that we don't know!
jews control the world now and control the media so they broadcast all the idea they want
one final point: Google Freemason/. Illuminati/ Freemason Illuminati war on Islam and u will figure it out!
waiting to hear your reply
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